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[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Adoption Call for ML-KEM Post-Quantum Key Agreement for TLS 1.3

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 15 April 2025 22:24 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Adoption Call for ML-KEM Post-Quantum Key Agreement for TLS 1.3
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DJB's numbered points are fair.

There should be an answer for (1) (2) and (3) even if there isn't agreement.

thanks,
Rob


On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 3:18 PM D. J. Bernstein <djb@cr.yp.to> wrote:

> Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL writes:
> > “Consensus” is not about reaching no dissenters.
>
> Consensus doesn't require unanimity, but it does require fairly
> considering and trying to resolve each objection---which is exactly what
> the list records show didn't happen here.
>
> Also, _if_ resolution fails and an objection is overridden by general
> agreement, the reasons for overriding it have to be documented.
>
> > It’s about the “prevailing” opinion of majority
>
> No, voting is _not_ how IETF is supposed to work. IETF doesn't even have
> a membership mechanism, so if voting were allowed then there wouldn't
> even be the most basic protection against votes being bought.
>
> ---D. J. Bernstein
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