[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3
Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Tue, 29 April 2025 15:00 UTC
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Subject: [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3
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Just a reminder that this consensus call ends tonight. spt > On Apr 15, 2025, at 1:32 PM, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: > > We are continuing with our WG adoption calls for the following I-D: > Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3 [1]; see [2] for more information about this tranche of adoption calls. If you support adoption and are willing to review and contribute text, please send a message to the list. If you do not support adoption of this draft, please send a message to the list and indicate why. This call will close at 2359 UTC on 29 April 2025. > > Reminder: This call for adoption has nothing to do with picking the mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS. > > Cheers, > Joe and Sean > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tls-westerbaan-mldsa/ > [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/KMOTm_lE5OIAKG8_chDlRKuav7c/
- [TLS] WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Santosh Chokhani
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Rebecca Guthrie
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Kampanakis, Panos
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… tirumal reddy
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of M… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use… Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Sean Turner