Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix.
Geoffrey Keating <geoffk@geoffk.org> Tue, 29 April 2014 23:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix.
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Adam Langley <agl@google.com> writes: > [2] https://secure-resumption.com/draft-bhargavan-tls-session-hash-00.txt I read this and couldn't work out how it interacted with renegotiation. I'm surprised there's no discussion of renegotiation at all in section 3. Does 'handshake_messages' include: a) Only the first handshake; or b) Only the last handshake; or c) All messages from all handshakes, up to the Client Key Exchange message in each handshake; or d) All messages from all handshakes, up to the Client Key Exchange message in the last handshake, up to the Finished message in previous handshakes, including any HelloRequest messages; or e) Like d but without HelloRequest messages; or f) Other? I'm fairly sure a and b lead to security vulnerabilities. I'm not sure whether c does so or not. d and e present some challenges for implementations with TLS 1.2, because you could renegotiate to a different hash algorithm, so you need to keep the contents of the handshake(s), or all possible partial hashes, for the duration of the connection. I also note that the draft leaves out the (last?) 'certificate verify' message, is that intentional? Are there any security consequences?
- [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Alfredo Pironti
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller