Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Tue, 24 October 2017 01:59 UTC

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From: "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu>
To: "Ackermann, Michael" <MAckermann@bcbsm.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00
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Who cares about the objective? People are asking about the result.

Regards,
Uri

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> On Oct 23, 2017, at 19:32, Ackermann, Michael <MAckermann@bcbsm.com>; wrote:
> 
> NO
> The objective is to be passively observe, out of band and not to be a MitM or modify/inject text.    Just as we all do today.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Kaduk [mailto:bkaduk@akamai.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:33 PM
> To: Ackermann, Michael <MAckermann@bcbsm.com>;; Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>;; Adam Caudill <adam@adamcaudill.com>;
> Cc: tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00
> 
>> On 10/23/2017 05:09 PM, Ackermann, Michael wrote:
>> No one I am aware of is pushing for a MitM capability to address this.   
>> In fact it was one of the alternative solutions for which many 
>> implementation issues were cited at the Prague meeting and on this 
>> list.    But I would like to ask,  what is the solution that your 
>> company and others that you reference,  have solved this problem by 
>> implementing?
> 
> Is not draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility a MitM, in that the holder of the
> SSWrapDH1 private key has the cryptographic capability to inject traffic and modify plaintext for the affected connections?
> 
> -Ben
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