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Re: [TLS] prohibit <1.2 support on 1.3+ servers (but allow clients)

mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Thu, 21 May 2015 23:28 UTC

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From: mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex)
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Subject: Re: [TLS] prohibit <1.2 support on 1.3+ servers (but allow clients)
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Dave Garrett wrote:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7525
> 
> 2) For TLS 1.3, add a blurb to the effect of:
> "Server TLS implementations supporting TLS 1.3 or later
> MUST NOT negotiate TLS 1.0 or TLS 1.1 for any reason.

You have just been passionately fighting _for_ ignoring a requirement
in TLSv1.0->v1.2 that is extremely reasonable an interop-enhancing
requirement.

Now you're asking for addition of an obviously stupid requirement that
will obviously impair interop.

Such obviously bogus requirements are going to be entirely ignored
by a number of implementors, and they will get away with it with ease
just as the offenders of current requirements keep offending.

The bottom line result will be that you're in conflict with rfc2119
and driving the quality of the document into the ground, because it
will become more and more difficult to recognize which of the requirements
are really important for interoperability, and which are just political junk.


-Martin

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