[TLS] Commentary on the client authentication presentation slides
Ilari Liusvaara <ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi> Mon, 20 July 2015 14:10 UTC
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Subject: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication presentation slides
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Some commentary on client authentication slides (there is no linked draft nor other material yet). - Mechanism like proposed looks dangerous when combined with HTTP/2. Multiplexed protocols are in general not safe to authenticate without application-layer signaling (which can be implicit via separate connections), especially if dealing with something like web environment. - Regarding last point about interleaving: Assuming the scheme works in 1RTT (and I see no reason for requiring more rounds), you can't prevent application_data transmission after certificate_request. The best that can be done is to require the client to send all the authentication-related data in one go. - The certificate_types field in CertificateRequest is pretty much useless, since all supported algorithms are of signature type. - One can't just remove fields without breaking parse compatiblity, but adding field breaks parse compatiblity too, so removing field at the same time isn't a problem. - How does extension_values work? If multiple values for one OID are allowed, then the OID/value pair is repeated, once for each value? -Ilari
- [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication pre… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Commentary on the client authentication… Martin Rex