Re: [TLS] Thanks to Benjamin Kaduk

Nico Williams <> Thu, 08 November 2018 17:21 UTC

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On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 11:49:45AM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote:
> I wanted to thank Ben for the outreach he did in the last six months on
> the tls dnssec chain extension. It has been a difficult issue and I do
> wish the outcome was different. But during this time Ben put a lot of
> effort in trying to get the issues clarified and resolved both on the
> list of offlist. He repeatedly tried to engage more people of the WG
> and he made me feel that my opinions were not ignored.
> I am going to think a bit more on how we as IETF could have done better
> in this case, but I did want to share with the group that I think Ben
> made a real difference in trying to get this document out.
> Thanks Ben!

I'd like to second this.

I'd also like to state a mea culpa.  I did not understand the extent to
which this controversy would become a DoS on the WG.  Perhaps it would
have been better to not get involved and then later publish a better
version of the extension.  I can't be sure, but certainly avoiding that
large exchange of email would have been better.