[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

[Arnaud Taddei <[e-mail]>]

I support adoption

On the good point opened by Chris Wood and to echo Peter, I see the same
syndrome from other SDOs. If not in a ratified text people won't move.

Trying to find an explanation for why this is the case, for nearly all the
customers I work with, teams have a lot of limits to what they can do
unless their business, legal and compliancy team says so.

In other words, if a standard with its text, number, etc. is not attached
to the *harmonisation* of a given Regulation that must be implemented, it
is very hard for the teams to make the business case for why things need to
be done to their decision makers.

I am under the impression it created a general culture of "if not in the
text, we don't need to do it"

But as Chris I don't want to make it a distraction to this thread.

Arnaud Taddei

Global Security Strategist | Enterprise Security Group | ITU-T SG17 chair

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Geneva, Switzerland

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 8:01 AM Loganaden Velvindron <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I support adoption.
>
> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 at 22:32, Sean Turner <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > At IETF 121, the WG discussed “Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key
> Agreement for TLSv1.3”; see [0] and [1]. We also had some discussion in an
> information gathering thread; see [2]. We would like to now determine
> whether there is support to adopt this I-D. If you support adoption and are
> willing to review and contribute text, please send a message to the list.
> If you do not support adoption of this I-D, please send a message to the
> list and indicate why. This WG adoption call will close at 2359 UTC on 12
> March 2025.
> >
> > One special note: this adoption call has nothing to do with picking the
> mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sean & Joe
> >
> > [0] Link to I-D:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/
> > [1] Link to slides:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-tls-post-quantum-hybrid-ecdhe-mlkem-key-agreement-for-tlsv13-00
> > [2] Link to information gather thread:
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/yGZV5dBTcxHJhG-JtfaP6beTd68/
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