Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS extension RI w/MCSV
Nelson B Bolyard <nelson@bolyard.me> Fri, 11 December 2009 03:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS extension RI w/MCSV
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On 2009-12-10 18:55 PST, Martin Rex wrote: > Nelson B Bolyard wrote: >>>>> That is interesting information. Would you happen to have a copy of the >>>>> last "official" spec you can send me? >>>> Netscape's official SSLv3 spec as of 2005: >>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20050207004652/wp.netscape.com/eng/ssl3/3-SPEC.HTM >>> That's pretty clear, SSLv3 did not have a provision for extending Client >>> Hello. >>> >>>> As obvious from it's name that spec is a product of the TLS WG and >>>> the TLS WG decided to completely abandon (instead of publishing as >>>> informational RFC) that document so that it expired and vanished >>>> from the I-D repository 6 month later. >>> Seems like SSLv3 was simultaneously one of the most critical protocols >>> for net security and orphaned. >> Stop right there. Don't be led down the garden path. >> >> Look at the parent page. Look at >> http://web.archive.org/web/20050205162914/wp.netscape.com/eng/ssl3/ > Keeping an old version of a specification around in a MUCH > MORE promentiently fashion for 9 years tells a lot about what > Netscape thought of the draft-302.txt document. It's not "much more prominent". It's merely HTML. Prettier, perhaps. It amuses me that you tell me what Netscape did and didn't do with those pages, because *I* was the Netscape employee who maintained that section of the web site from 1998-2005, beginning when I implemented TLS 1.0 in Netscape's NSS.
- [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS extension… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Dieter Bratko
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… tom.petch
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Steve Checkoway
- [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop scen… tom.petch
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray