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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Ken Kubota <ietf@kenkubota.de>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Improving the quality of the discussion on the TLS email list
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2026 12:16:58 +0000
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On 7/31/26, 8:24 PM, "Ken Kubota" <ietf@kenkubota.de> wrote:

Please show me where in 2026 and/or 2418 where it says that the reasoning behind all decisions must be made public.  Perhaps take a look at the definition of formal record in [1] and the discussion of how to determine consensus at [2].

If you don’t like the decision the chairs have made, you can appeal it. The appealing body will look at the evidence and decide who is right. This is not a court of law, there is no testimony, diaries, notes about discussions, or the like.

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2026/#section-8
[2] https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2418/#section-3.3

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