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Re: [TLS] Adoption call for Deprecating FFDH(E) Ciphersuites in TLS

Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Fri, 06 August 2021 19:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Adoption call for Deprecating FFDH(E) Ciphersuites in TLS
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> On 6 Aug 2021, at 3:31 pm, Benjamin Kaduk <bkaduk=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
>> That said, I've given up fighting potentially counter-productive "raising the floor"
>> rather than "the celing" on all fronts, and now try to focus on just the most important
>> cases.  Thus have accepted the fact that sadly no anon (EC)DH ciphers are available with
>> TLS 1.3.
> 
> Well, yes, because TLS 1.3 ciphers only indicate the hash function and AEAD.

Yes, correct on a technicality: for anon_DH I'd need a null signature scheme,
but the intended point was that TLS without server certificates is presently
not supported in TLS 1.3.  I have not chose to campain to bring it back at
this time...

-- 
	Viktor.

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