Re: [TLS] TLS Flags and IANA registration policy

[Ira McDonald <[e-mail]>]

Hi Eric,

I agree.  Let's get the semantics right.  You mentioned a 3-tuple w/
"Discouraged".
Should that be "Deprecated" (for clarity)?


On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 5:17 PM Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Well, we certainly can change it in 8446-bis.
>
> My put here would be: let's get consensus on the *semantics* we want for
> the various categories without worrying about the names (call them A, B, C,
> etc.) and then we can name them after.
>
> -Ekr
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:14 PM Ira McDonald <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Thanks for the background.  I still sympathize with Hannes' point that
>> "Recommended" means "IETF Consensus".  I have to explain this
>> too often in the insular automotive industry.
>>
>> But I certainly wouldn't write an RFC to change the title of a single
>> column in an IANA registry.  I've been one of the Designated Experts
>> for the IANA Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) registry for 20 years and
>> we rename IANA fields as needed by a direct request to our IANA
>> folks (after consensus in the IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group IPP
>> WG - successor to IETF IPP WG in the 1990s).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Previous discussion is on this issue:
>>> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/issues/1214
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:13 PM Salz, Rich <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - I am actually not in favor of changing it to IETF Consensus. I
>>>>    think these have different meanings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To be clear, I wasn’t expressing an opinion on whether or not to do
>>>> this, I was just showing folks how to start the change process.
>>>>
>>>