Re: [TLS] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11: (with COMMENT)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 19 January 2021 14:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11: (with COMMENT)
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Hiya,

On 19/01/2021 11:05, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> On
>> Behalf Of Stephen Farrell Sent: 12 January 2021 21:35 To: Rob
>> Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> Cc:
>> draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate@ietf.org;
>> tls-chairs@ietf.org; tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TLS] Robert
>> Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls- oldversions-deprecate-11:
>> (with COMMENT)
>> 
>> 
>> Hiya,
>> 
>> On 12/01/2021 18:14, Robert Wilton via Datatracker wrote:
>>> Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for 
>>> draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11: No Objection
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-
>> criteria.html
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found
>>> here: 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT: 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> 
Thank you for purging the old versions of TLS.
>> 
>> Thanks for trudging through it! :-)
>> 
>>> 
>>> There is one sentence in the abstract that I found surprising (if
>>> it is
>> right).
>>> 
>>> The abstract states: "TLSv1.2 has been the recommended version
>>> for IETF protocols since 2008, providing sufficient time to
>>> transition away from older versions."
>>> 
>>> Should this be "minimum recommended version"?  Otherwise, I
>>> don't
>> understand
>>> why the recommended version of TLS is 1.2 rather than 1.3 (given
>>> that
>> the TLS
>>> 1.2 RFC is marked as obsolete).
>> 
>> I see what you mean.
>> 
>> I guess s/has been/became/ would do it? The point isn't so much
>> what the current recommended version is/was but more that it's been
>> a dozen years since it was TLSv1.1.
> [RW]
> 
> Yes, s/has been/became/ helps, but I still think that it implies that
> TLV 1.2 is the current recommended version of TLS.
> 
> Perhaps something along the lines of:
> 
> TLSv1.2 became the recommended version for IETF protocols in 2008
> (now obsoleted by TLSv1.3 in 2018), providing sufficient time to
> transition away from older versions."

Sure. I did more or less that in the repo - [1] with
diff vs. -11 at [2]

Cheers,
S.

[1] 
https://github.com/tlswg/oldversions-deprecate/blob/master/draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate.txt
[2] 
https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11.txt&url2=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/oldversions-deprecate/master/draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate.txt

> 
> Regards, Rob
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers, S.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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