[TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation
Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> Wed, 15 January 2025 19:08 UTC
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From: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com>
To: Quynh Dang <quynh97@gmail.com>
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* Did you mean the number of people attending a particular meeting ? My understanding is that consensus is not determined by meeting participants; it’s always determined on the mailing list. Are you suggesting that a certain minimum percentage of mailing list subscribers have to be in favor? Cheers, Andrei From: Quynh Dang <quynh97@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 11:01 AM To: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> Cc: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>; tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation You don't often get email from quynh97@gmail.com<mailto:quynh97@gmail.com>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 1:50 PM Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com<mailto:Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com>> wrote: In the absence of a roster of participants, how can a percentage of votes be determined? We don’t have WG membership registrations, AFAIK. Did you mean the number of people attending a particular meeting ? Requiring them to sign in using the online tools. For the people who don't sign and they attend another meeting, they can send their IETF registration for that day or for the whole week to the chairs and their votes can be cast within a week or so after the IETF ends. That would be an easy task I think and I don't think we should talk about it now. Regards, Quynh. Cheers, Andrei From: Quynh Dang <quynh97@gmail.com<mailto:quynh97@gmail.com>> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:44 AM To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com<mailto:tbray@textuality.com>> Cc: tls@ietf.org<mailto:tls@ietf.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation You don't often get email from quynh97@gmail.com<mailto:quynh97@gmail.com>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 1:26 PM Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com<mailto:tbray@textuality.com>> wrote: On Jan 15, 2025 at 11:37:58 AM, Quynh Dang <quynh97@gmail.com<mailto:quynh97@gmail.com>> wrote: Defining a minimum percentage of votes to have the consensus would take care of the problem and the chairs at the IETF would love that. No it wouldn’t Why do you think it wouldn't take care of the problem I described? Regards, Quynh. and no we (speaking as former co-chair of two WGs) wouldn’t. I’m not sure why we’re relitigating the works-pretty-OK process of consensus calls from the chair and potential appeals. -T
- [TLS] Changing WG Mail List Reputation Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Arnaud Taddei
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Tim Hollebeek
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Bob Beck
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Joseph Salowey
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Joseph Salowey
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Dang, Quynh H. (Fed)
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Bob Beck
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation John Levine
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Dennis Jackson
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Ted Lemon
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Tim Hollebeek
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Tim Bray
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Ted Lemon
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Roman Danyliw
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: Changing WG Mail List Reputation Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Changing WG Mail List Re… Quynh Dang