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Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 12 July 2017 14:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...
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On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:35 AM, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> wrote:
> Which will have zero impact on pervasive surveillance until some government decides they want to use this mechanism or something like it and mandates that it be implemented universally within their borders. Then it will appear in short order, even if the government has to hire their own code monkeys to do it, at which point it will continue to have zero impact on pervasive surveillance.

Right, and then there will have to be a public debate.   I expect that exactly what you describe will happen or be attempted in various jurisdictions.   That's okay.   Requiring this stuff to be done publicly is better than it happening in secret.

(Is this conversation still really useful?   I don't think I'm saying anything you don't already know, so I don't know why you made this point.)

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