Re: [TLS] WGLC for "Deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1"

Töma Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> Fri, 26 April 2019 15:14 UTC

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:14:21 +0300
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Subject: Re: [TLS] WGLC for "Deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1"
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Peace,

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:08 PM Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com> wrote:

> I think it's fine as it is. This use case is very specific and the impact
> for
> it is limited. So yes, I think that the delay between publishing and now
> will
> change the situation even more out of favour of TLS 1.0.
>

Exactly my thought: polishing it further would hardly make the document
significantly better, taking in the account the delay necessary to do that.

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Töma

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