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Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 24 October 2017 13:30 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "Ackermann, Michael" <MAckermann@bcbsm.com>
CC: "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00
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➢     The objective is to be passively observe, out of band and not to be a MitM or modify/inject text.    Just as we all do today.  
    
That might be the objective, but isn’t Ben correct?  If a third-party has the session keys, what prevents them from doing that?  Good behavior?  Or is there some technical means (unclear to me) to actually prevent it?

As I used to read in the comics of my youth, https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=good%20lord%21%20choke  I am glad that this conversation thread kept going, like a zombie it keeps rising.  We know have enough knowledge to definitively put a stake through its heart, forever.

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