[TLS] Progressing DTLS 1.3 (was Re: 3rd WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-dtls13)

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Thu, 04 June 2020 02:34 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Progressing DTLS 1.3 (was Re: 3rd WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-dtls13)
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Changes introduced in -38 were well discussed on the list. The AEAD limits are the notable exception however those changes are to address findings discovered by security researchers. The chairs believe that -38 is ready for AD review.

(for the chairs)

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 10:17, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> This is the third working group last call for the "The Datagram Transport
> Layer Security (DTLS) Protocol Version 1.3" draft available at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-dtls13/. Please
> review the document and send your comments to the list by 2359 UTC on
> 27 March 2019.
> This is a targeted one-week WGLC intended to focus on the changes from -34, which was the subject of the second working group last call, and -37. The diffs between -34 and -37 can be found at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls-dtls13-34&url2=draft-ietf-tls-dtls13-37
> As you will see in the diffs, the changes include 2119-language related changes in s5.1 and s7. These two changes were introduced in -35, which was post in November.
> Note the the GH repo for this draft can be found at:
> https://github.com/tlswg/dtls13-spec
> Thanks,
> Chris, Joe, and Sean