Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Thu, 27 March 2014 23:06 UTC

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:06:51 -0700
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
To: Trevor Perrin <trevp@trevp.net>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process
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On 27 March 2014 15:45, Trevor Perrin <trevp@trevp.net> wrote:
> But I would personally prefer a more open process based around
> soliciting and comparing different proposals, without pre-judging in
> advance what changes are "gratuitous".

I'll note two things here:

1. nothing leaves the working group until there is consensus for it to
do so, no matter what process has been followed

2. nothing prevents you or anyone from making a proposal...at any time

If it turns out that major surgery or even a complete rewrite is
necessary, and there is working group consensus for either, then I
have faith that someone will make that proposal.  And that proposal, I
hope, will be judged on its merits.

So far, I haven't seen any evidence that what Sean describes is a bad
plan.  In fact, since our chairs have run this rodeo before, I have a
strong suspicion that this is a decision based on experience with
getting results.  I would like results.

[TLS] TLS 1.3 process Sean Turner
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Trevor Perrin
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Watson Ladd
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Martin Thomson
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Trevor Perrin
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Salz, Rich
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Peter Gutmann
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process t.petch
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Stephen Farrell
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Douglas Stebila
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Salz, Rich
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Watson Ladd
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Dan Harkins
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Adam Langley
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Eric Rescorla
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Watson Ladd
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Trevor Perrin
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Bill Frantz
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Eric Rescorla
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Dan Harkins
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Peter Gutmann
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Peter Gutmann
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Peter Gutmann
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Bill Frantz
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Dan Harkins
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Salz, Rich
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Peter Gutmann
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Bill Frantz
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Dan Harkins
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Watson Ladd
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Dan Harkins
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Peter Gutmann
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process Andy Lutomirski
Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process henry.story@bblfish.net