Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback
mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Mon, 08 April 2013 23:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback
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Yngve N. Pettersen wrote: > Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> wrote: > > > > Quoting from rfc4346 (TLS v1.1 Record Protocol PDU): > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4346#page-18 > > > > struct { > > uint8 major, minor; > > } ProtocolVersion; > > > > struct { > > ContentType type; > > ProtocolVersion version; > > uint16 length; > > opaque fragment[TLSPlaintext.length]; > > } TLSPlaintext; > > The version field is defined as (major, minor), the version negotiation > logic (See RFC 5246 Sec E.1) is defined as lowest version of the clients > signaled version and the highest supported by the server. There is AFAIK > nothing in RFC 5246 that says that the major version must match, at least > implying that the operation is min((major_client, minor_client), > (major_server, minor_server)). I'm sorry, but that is a non-seqitur. from the conceivable version numbers: {1.x} undefined {2,x} undefined (reserved/blocked) {3,x} SSLv3 and TLS {4,x} undefined {127,x} undefined {128,x} undefined {129,x} undefined {253,x} undefined {254,x} DTLS {255,x} undefined and only the behaviour for {3,x} for x>3 is covered in rfc5246 Appendix E. > > I think is is quite reasonable to assume that *if* TLS should ever need a > significant upgrade, one large enough that the major version number is > changed, This is silly and unnecessary. The IETF could easily assign the marketing term "TLSv2.0" for ProtocolVersion {3,4}, so there is no reason to use a major version other than 3 for the forseeable future. -Martin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Hanno Böck
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Joseph Birr-Pixton
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] SCSVs and SSLv3 fallback Yoav Nir