Re: [TLS] TLS Opaque
Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Thu, 01 April 2021 04:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS Opaque
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:39 PM Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > We had a presentation on TLS opaque at IETF 110, but we have not had much > discussion of this document on the list. The chairs would like to see more > discussion on the document before considering it for adoption. > The draft is interesting, but I'm not sure I really agree with the approach the draft takes with regard to the TLS key schedule. It seems fine to debate in the WG, though. > There is at least one question on the list that has gone unanswered for > some time [1]. > > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/yCBYp10QuYPSu5zOoM3v84SAIZE/ > I've found most of the OPAQUE drafts are pretty confusing / incorrect / or typo'd when it comes to lines like these. Describing these calculations seems difficult in ASCII, so I don't fault anyone for making mistakes here. The authors have also been pretty responsive in adding test vectors and such. thanks, Rob
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