Re: [TLS] DSA should die

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 02 April 2015 00:51 UTC

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On 02/04/15 01:48, Nico Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Stephen Farrell
> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>> <no-hats-except-the-330+-ciphersuites-is-crap-hat>
>>
>> Here's a suggestion: why pick 'em off one by one? How about
>> creating a new registry that only includes stuff we think is
>> really good for TLS1.3?
>>
>> Personally, I'd go further and argue that the new registry
>> only specify the TLS 1.3 MTIs, but that's a different question:-)
>>
>> I'd even argue that that new registry be defined so it only
>> has space for two of anything - in other words maybe structure
>> the new registry like the nice list in the MTI mail thread, [1]
>> and then say how to map that to the old registry that has all
>> 330+ ciphersuites including the good, the bad and the downright
>> ugly.
> 
> It would be easier to specify the inputs to the cartesian product.
> 
> It would be better to also negotiate (cipher+mode), (hash), (KDF), and
> (key agreement+server authentication) separately.

Right. That's what Joe did in the mail to which I pointed.

I'm not saying anything about how that's represented on the wire,
but only about IANA registry structure (and size:-)

S

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