Re: [TLS] TLS-PWD vs. TLS-SRP

"Dan Harkins" <dharkins@lounge.org> Wed, 06 November 2013 22:29 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:29:46 -0800
From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
To: Fabrice <fabrice.gautier@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS-PWD vs. TLS-SRP
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On Wed, November 6, 2013 1:43 pm, Fabrice wrote:
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 13:02, "Dan Harkins" <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Hi Shin,
>>
>>> On Wed, November 6, 2013 12:15 pm, SeongHan Shin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The TLS WG is about to issue a LC for tls-pwd.
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-pwd-01
>>>
>>> Is there any advantages of tls-pwd over tls-srp?
>>
>>  TLS-srp binds the password to a particular finite cyclic group
>> and the user must use that group for the life of the password.
>
> Isn't that required for every protocol that only stores a verifier on the
> server, rather than a password equivalent?
>
> My understanding of TLS-PWD is that the server need to store a password
> equivalent (called the "base" in the TLS-PWD drafts), and as such does not
> have some of the desirable properties of SRP (or AugPAKE) related to
> server compromises.

  Your understanding is correct. There are drawbacks with the "desirable
properties" of both TLS-srp and TLS-pwd. Now you have a choice based on
what you value more.

  Dan.