[TLS] Re: Ketan Talaulikar's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-tls12-frozen-07: (with COMMENT)

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Tue, 10 June 2025 11:50 UTC

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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 13:49:41 +0200
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: [TLS] Re: Ketan Talaulikar's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-tls12-frozen-07: (with COMMENT)
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2025, at 12:36, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
> Last week, the US put out an executive order with a transition date 
> requirement of 2030 for TLSv1.3.

It's not clear from the recent EO, but that is copied from the previous (Jan 17, I think) EO, unchanged.  That's not necessarily something that will affect Peter's position at all though.