Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random
Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@oracle.com> Mon, 26 April 2010 22:16 UTC
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:15:47 -0500
From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@oracle.com>
To: Marsh Ray <marsh@extendedsubset.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random
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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 05:10:35PM -0500, Marsh Ray wrote: > On 4/26/2010 4:36 PM, Nicolas Williams wrote: > > Ah! Perhaps what's happening here is that Paul intends for the > > additional random inputs to be provided by the _application_, from > > outside the TLS implementation. In that case an application could make > > secure use of TLS even when the underlying TLS implementation has a poor > > [P]RNG. That would make draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext much > > more interesting (combined with some editing I'd drop my objections). > > But that facility could be provided by the implementation API without > any need to extend the TLS protocol. Indeed, OpenSSL provides a function > to contribute entropy into its RNG. There is a lot of inertia in installed base. If there are implementations that allow for arbitrary extensions then Paul would have acase. However, I suspect there are not; unless I'm missing something then I agree with this: > Thus I do not think draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext should be > advanced as a standard. Nico --
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Russ Housley
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Kemp, David P.
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Kemp, David P.
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Sean Turner