Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notification for draft-zauner-tls-aes-ocb-03.txt]
Michael Hamburg <mike@shiftleft.org> Mon, 01 June 2015 18:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notification for
draft-zauner-tls-aes-ocb-03.txt]
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> On Jun 1, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> wrote: > > On Mon 2015-06-01 08:37:16 -0400, Aaron Zauner wrote: >> Firstly, as far as I know it's also quite difficult to get ECDSA >> certificates in the wild. Has this changed significantly over the past >> couple of months? > > I've heard this claim in the past, but i'm not sure what it is based on. > AFAICT, there are several public CAs who are happy to issue ECDSA > certificates if you ask them for them. > > In November 2014, i managed to get one from Comodo (or a Comodo > reseller, i can't keep all the "imprints" and "branding" straight) and > it took about 20 minutes from start to finish. > > Can you describe how you have tried to get an ECDSA cert, and how those > attempts failed? > > --dkg I tried to get one from Comodo about a year ago. It wasn’t advertised on their website but I asked one of their tech support folks. They said that it was an experimental feature for business customers only, and would cost me something like $600. I don’t remember if that was a 1-year or 3-year cert. I looked at Verisign’s catalog as well, and it was labeled as an enterprise feature with an even higher price tag. Low thousands I think. I asked the guys at BaySec and they said that this was the shape of the market at that time. I also looked at StartSSL. They are free, but only offer RSA certs. I mostly wanted ECDSA for performance on a super slow home server, and I figured $600 in hardware upgrades would go a lot further than $600 in certs. Anyway you can get ECDSA certs relatively easily, but not cheaply; or at least, that’s how it was a year ago. — Mike
- [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notification fo… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Peter Bowen
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Russ Housley
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- [TLS] EDDSA/Curve25519 identifiers: Was Re: AES-O… Michael StJohns
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Michael Hamburg
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Michael Hamburg
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Gunnar Wolf
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] EDDSA/Curve25519 identifiers: Was Re: A… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] EDDSA/Curve25519 identifiers: Was Re: A… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] EDDSA/Curve25519 identifiers: Was Re: A… Peter Bowen
- Re: [TLS] EDDSA/Curve25519 identifiers: Was Re: A… Michael StJohns
- Re: [TLS] EDDSA/Curve25519 identifiers: Was Re: A… Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Aaron Zauner
- Re: [TLS] AES-OCB in TLS [New Version Notificatio… Matt Caswell