Re: [TLS] Comments on draft-ietf-tls-tls13-18

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 02 November 2016 04:30 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 15:30:39 +1100
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Comments on draft-ietf-tls-tls13-18
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On 2 November 2016 at 02:45, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That sounds good. The more we can turn bugs into ones that violate the
> spec, the easier it will be to get them fixed. (Hopefully)

failure to interoperate >> violate the spec

I know that NSS rejects multiple HRRs.  I expect that Boring does too
(couldn't be bothered to check).  That means you have to be even
lazier than I am with interop testing to make this mistake :)