Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 02 December 2016 13:47 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
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> People already know that SSL3 is worse than "SSL" 1.0 though 1.2 , it's logical
> that SSL 1.3 continues that trend. creating "SSL" 4 will bring more confusion.

Please explain that assertion.

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