[TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360
Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Mon, 26 August 2024 14:16 UTC
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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:16:36 -0400
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Subject: [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360
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My feelings exactly match Rich's here. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:15 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz= 40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > I am also opposed to the merge. 8446bis changes are editorial and > clarifications, not semantic ones. > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org >
- [TLS]Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360 Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis … D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis … D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis P… Andrei Popov
- [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis P… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS]Re: Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360 Russ Housley
- [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis P… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis P… Richard Barnes
- [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis P… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360 Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rf… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rf… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rf… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rf… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: [TLS]Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rf… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis … Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis … Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360 Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360 Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Consensus Call: -rfc8446bis PRs #1360 Eric Rescorla