[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3
Andrey Jivsov <crypto@brainhub.org> Tue, 15 April 2025 20:55 UTC
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:55:35 -0700
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Subject: [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3
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I don't think that standalone ML-DSA should be adopted. There is time to move to a non-hybrid X.509 and digital signatures in the future. This topic has implications to availability of X.509 certificates, as there is a real risk that CAs will prefer standalone ML-DSA to ethe exclusion of hybrids, and also that other protocols will be limited to standalone ML-DSA. On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:39 AM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > I do not think we should adopt this draft at this time. I would prefer the > WG focus its effort on key establishment. > Once those documents are complete, we can reconsider signature. > > -Ekr > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:34 AM Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: > >> We are continuing with our WG adoption calls for the following I-D: >> Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3 [1]; see [2] for more information about this >> tranche of adoption calls. If you support adoption and are willing to >> review and contribute text, please send a message to the list. If you do >> not support adoption of this draft, please send a message to the list and >> indicate why. This call will close at 2359 UTC on 29 April 2025. >> >> Reminder: This call for adoption has nothing to do with picking the >> mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS. >> >> Cheers, >> Joe and Sean >> >> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tls-westerbaan-mldsa/ >> [2] >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/KMOTm_lE5OIAKG8_chDlRKuav7c/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org >> > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org >
- [TLS] WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Santosh Chokhani
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Rebecca Guthrie
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Kampanakis, Panos
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… tirumal reddy
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of M… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use of ML-DSA in T… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Use… Mike Ounsworth