Re: [Drip] Revised Abstract -- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Mon, 04 April 2022 15:03 UTC

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And on BMI3 on:

    HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy
    that provides Registrar discovery for 3rd-party identifier
    attestation.

that should not be Registrar, rather registry.

    HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy
    that enables registry (e.g. DNS) discovery for 3rd-party identifier
    attestation.




On 4/4/22 10:26, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Removing citations and not exploding the following text are at odds, 
> as I was instructed that the abstract needs to say it is updating 
> prior rfcs.  I would have to dig to find out where this was added, but 
> lets look at this:
>
>    This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags
>    (HHITs), updating both [RFC7401] and [RFC7343], as self-asserting
>    IPv6 addresses and thereby a trustable identifier for use as the
>    Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification and tracking (UAS
>    RID).
>
> updating both HIPv2 and ORCHIDv2  ???
>
> What are those, do I expand them to Host Identity Protocol version 2 
> and Overlay Routable Cryptographic Hash Identifiers Version 2 ???
>
> or
>
> updating existing standards defining the Host Identity Tag (HIT) and 
> its hash(ed) construction  ???
>
> The Introduction explains what and why Hierarchical Host Identity Tags 
> and thus needing to update 7401 and 7343.  How these rfcs are updated 
> is covered in later sections.
>
> This is probably the hardest comment to resolved based on prior 
> comments...
>
> thanks
>
>
> On 4/1/22 09:07, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
>> Standard
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> Please find below my comments to -18:
>>
>>   * pdf:
>>     https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18-rev%20Med.pdf
>>     <https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18-rev%20Med.pdf>
>>   * doc:
>>     https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18-rev%20Med.doc
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Med
>>
>> *De :* Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> *De la part de* 
>> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
>> *Envoyé :* vendredi 1 avril 2022 09:41
>> *À :* Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>om>; tm-rid@ietf.org
>> *Objet :* Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt
>>
>> Hi Bob, all,
>>
>> Thank you for implementing the list of agreed changes 
>> (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tm-rid/K1tOOlHcdsz1RdMZXsahP2qrBvA/).
>>
>> I invite everyone to carefully look into this version and share any 
>> remaining concern by ** April, 07 **.
>>
>> Absent any follow-up, we will request publication for this document 
>> next Friday 08/04.
>>
>> If we hear back from IANA before then, Rob will take care of the 
>> comments. If not, IANA-related comments will be addressed in due time 
>> (IETF LC).
>>
>> As I already reviewed the document several times, I may have only 
>> nits/minor fixes that I will directly share with Rob.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Med
>>
>> *De :* Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> *De la part de* Robert Moskowitz
>> *Envoyé :* jeudi 31 mars 2022 17:50
>> *À :* tm-rid@ietf.org
>> *Objet :* Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt
>>
>> Fixed outstanding items of supporting 8-bit HHIT Suite ID. Please 
>> check out that I now have this all done. Particularly sections 4.2 and 5.
>>
>> Moved HID registration to drip-registries (and changed reference to 
>> ietf-drip-registries!).  That is no longer asking ICAO, here, to 
>> manage RAA space.
>>
>> Some other cleanup, please look at diff.
>>
>> Still to do:  waiting for IANA review.  So I anticipate a -19
>>
>> On 3/31/22 11:45, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>>     A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>
>>     This draft is a work item of the Drone Remote ID Protocol WG of the IETF.
>>
>>              Title           : DRIP Entity Tag (DET) for Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification (UAS RID)
>>
>>              Authors         : Robert Moskowitz
>>
>>                                Stuart W. Card
>>
>>                                Adam Wiethuechter
>>
>>                                Andrei Gurtov
>>
>>       Filename        : draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt
>>
>>       Pages           : 33
>>
>>       Date            : 2022-03-31
>>
>>     Abstract:
>>
>>         This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags
>>
>>         (HHITs), updating both [RFC7401] and [RFC7343], as self-asserting
>>
>>         IPv6 addresses and thereby a trustable identifier for use as the
>>
>>         Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification and tracking (UAS
>>
>>         RID).  Within the context of RID, HHITs will be called DRIP Entity
>>
>>         Tags (DET).  HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy
>>
>>         that provides Registrar discovery for 3rd-party identifier
>>
>>         attestation.
>>
>>     The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>
>>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-rid/
>>
>>     There is also an HTML version available at:
>>
>>     https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.html
>>
>>     A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>
>>     https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-drip-rid-18
>>
>>     Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>
>> -- 
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