Re: [Drip] [Internet]Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-drip-arch-17.txt
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Wed, 01 December 2021 16:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Drip] [Internet]Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-drip-arch-17.txt
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On 11/30/21 23:24, Stuart W. Card wrote: > On 11/30/2021 7:40 PM, shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) wrote: >> ... >> Editor-note-1: >> - I recall you have a comment regarding Figure 3. The original >> comment is as follows: >> >> "Section 1.3 Figure 3 is confusing: the Observer _sees_ (or hears, or >> otherwise senses) UAS but does not _connect_ to them; the Observer >> can connect via the Internet to another USS (and thence via the DSS) >> for queries regarding the UAS" >> I will need your help to get a better understanding what is your >> proposing. >> >> Per Bob's comment, Once we resolve Editor-note-1, we need to recheck >> the language in Editor-note-8, to make sure the logic in CS-RID still >> correct. Both Editor-note can be resolved at the same time. > > I am just suggesting we revise the figure to distinguish between > _observations_ and communications. It may be as simple as replacing > some solid lines with dotted lines and adding a brief legend > indicating what each of them means. Adam & I can try revising the > ASCII art and writing the legend. > >> Editor-note-2: >> - please provide text for change > > As well as the replacement ASCII art for Figure 4; will do. > >> Editor-note-3: >> - Per your previous comment (If I recall correctly), either Bob or >> Adam needs to double check if language in this section is correct. > > Preferably both of them. ;-) this para is in line with the current drip-auth that Adam and I crafted. We worked hard at getting this well done in drip-auth and pulling it completely from drip-rid. > >> Editor-note-4: >> - I will try to cover this one, which is citing Req numbers in section 5 > > Then have Adam verify it against his embryonic registry draft. > >> Edtior-note-5: >> - regarding the title of section 6 "DRIP Identifier Trust". The >> original text came from Adam and you asked why we don’t we use the >> word "“authentication”. >> Should we change the tile of section 6 from "DRIP Identifier Trust" >> to "DRIP Identifier Authentication"? > > It was just a question. I am not requesting a change. It just struck > me as strange that Section 6 is the brief architectural skeleton that > is fleshed out in Adam's authentication formats/protocols draft, yet > the latter has "authentication" in its title and the former does not. > I like the concept of trust as broader than (although starting with) > authentication, provided we really are going to say something broader > than authentication here. Rather than change the title, I would be in > favor of saying a few more words about identifier trust, including > some discussion of how an Observer can determine that an observed UA > is being flown by an operator who is registered in a registry that > Observer trusts to vet and register only trustworthy operators. So you want more work from us. :) > >> Editor-note-6: >> - I will try to cover this one, which is citing Req numbers in section 7 > > Then have Bob verify it against his drafts. > >> Editor-note-7: >> - Bob suggest move Section 3 to Section 2.4. My personally has no >> issues since it is all about new DRIP terminologies. I will make that >> changes until I heard differently. I believe in my last comment on this I said to lift the whole and make it sec 2.3.1, as these are all "Additional Definitions" and the current 3. header is worth keeping. > > I completely agree with the move. > > Thanks! >> On 11/30/21, 10:51, "Stuart W. Card" <stu.card@axenterprize.com> wrote: >> >> Shuai (as -arch editor) et al -- >> >> Other than writing a sentence for the body text indicating that >> some of >> the entities and relationships in the new Figure 4 are just >> context and >> outside the scope of DRIP, and assisting with revision of Figure >> 3, I am >> having trouble finding the action items specifically assigned to >> me? >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- Stu >> >> On 11/10/2021 10:32 PM, shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) wrote: >> > DRIP Enthusiast, >> > >> > Revision 17 is uploaded which is trying to address the >> comments received >> > during IETF week. Please see attached emails thread for previous >> > conversations. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Shuai >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-drip-arch-17.txt >> > has been successfully submitted by Shuai Zhao and posted to the >> > IETF repository. >> > >> > Name:draft-ietf-drip-arch >> > Revision:17 >> > Title:Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture >> > Document date:2021-11-10 >> > Group:drip >> > Pages:26 >> > URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-arch-17.txt >> > <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-arch-17.txt> >> > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-arch/ >> > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-arch/> >> > Htmlized: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-drip-arch >> > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-drip-arch> >> > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-drip-arch-17 >> > <https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-drip-arch-17> >> > >> > Abstract: >> > This document describes an architecture for protocols and >> services to >> > support Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification and >> tracking >> > (UAS RID), plus RID-related communications. This architecture >> > adheres to the requirements listed in the DRIP Requirements >> document. > > -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
- Re: [Drip] New Version Notification for draft-iet… shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)
- Re: [Drip] New Version Notification for draft-iet… Stuart W. Card
- Re: [Drip] [Internet]Re: New Version Notification… shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)
- Re: [Drip] [Internet]Re: New Version Notification… Stuart W. Card
- Re: [Drip] [Internet]Re: New Version Notification… Robert Moskowitz