Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Thu, 24 March 2022 11:55 UTC
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Jens, I would like to add that ASTM F38 does have EU participants that have been providing input. In fact the addition of WiFi BEACON for broadcast came out of France with backing from wider EU usage. More later. Today is just bad for me to comment much. Perhaps this afternoon US ET. Bob On 3/24/22 07:31, Card, Stu wrote: > Jens -- > > It is definitely our intention/desire for DRIP to have global > applicability. > > As Med wrote, we have only a few volunteers in the WG. Most of us are > more familiar with the regulations of the US FAA than with those of > other CAAs. Likewise most of us are more familiar with F3411 and > related work of ASTM International (which is indeed international but > began as the American Society for Testing and Materials so still has > disproportionate US representation among its volunteers) than with the > technical standards of European and other SDOs. > > We would _welcome_ whatever reviews, information or assistance you can > provide! > > -- Stu > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 6:31 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote: > > Hi Jens, > > Thank you for sharing these valuable comments. > > The intent was not to be centric but we are working under the > usual volunteer-based constraints. This point was discussed early > in the WG (e.g., > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2020-drip-01-202004221100/) > and this limitation was called out, e.g. (from the write-up of > RFC9153): > > Early versions of the document was largely based on the process > > of one region (US). The WG discussed that issue at the time and > > agreed to progress the work based on available inputs/volunteers > > as any other IETF effort. Also, the WG agreed to record this issue > > in an appendix. Since then, the document was enriched with inputs > > and relevant documents from the EU region. > > For the first point, I guess you are referring to > https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-library/notices-of-proposed-amendment/npa-2021-14. > Right? > > If you can share more specific comments, this will help the WG and > authors assess them. > > BTW, you may subscribe to the list because otherwise your messages > will be delayed till a moderator validates them. > > Cheers, > > Med > > *De :* Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> *De la part de* Jens > Finkhaeuser > *Envoyé :* jeudi 24 mars 2022 10:46 > *À :* tm-rid@ietf.org > *Objet :* [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 > > Hi all, > > since I am active through my employer in European drone research > (ADACORSA and COMP4DRONES projects to name just two), and our > speciality here is communications which relates to identification, > I read the draft with some interest. I fear a full analysis and > review would require more effort than I have managed to put into it. > > However, as a comment, it appears that the draft is very strongly > related to ASTM F3411, and maybe more so than immediately > apparent. I wonder how intentional that is? > > I ask for two reasons: > > 1. The EASA regulation referenced is not the most relevant, and > potentially a bit out of date; consequently, it is unclear how > well this proposal will work as-is in European airspace. > 2. The assumptions made on communications technologies seem to > exclude some drone categories and use cases (which admittedly > are also a source of disagreement between some of our research > partners). > > I'd be happy to bring more perspectives to this, but I am not sure > this is appropriate to the draft's intent. > > Jens > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > >
- [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Jens Finkhaeuser
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Card, Stu
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Jens Finkhaeuser
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Card, Stu
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Robert Moskowitz
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- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Comment on -arch-22 Jens Finkhaeuser
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