Re: [Drip] Revised Abstract -- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

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Re-,

The initial comment was to ensure the abstract is self-contained. It wasn’t the case with “registrar discovery” thing.

I trust you will do the right thing. Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

De : Tm-rid <[e-mail]> De la part de Robert Moskowitz
Envoyé : lundi 4 avril 2022 17:27
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[e-mail]>
Cc : [e-mail]
Objet : Re: [Drip] Revised Abstract -- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

My understanding of an abstract is to inform why this document is important and what the document is about.  The abstract content is then, considerably, expanded in the introduction.

Thus imho this is proper.  In the abstract we talk about HHIT -> registry.  In the intro we say how this is done.

I should expand the abstract to (e.g. DNS, EPP)


On 4/4/22 11:15, [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> wrote:
Re-,

Isn’t that text echoing what we have in the introduction?

==
   This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags
   (HHITs) (Section 3) as self-asserting IPv6 addresses and thereby a
   trustable identifier for use as the UAS Remote ID.  HHITs include
   explicit hierarchy to enable DNS HHIT queries (Host ID for
   authentication, e.g., [drip-authentication]) and for Extensible
   Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Registrar discovery [RFC7484] for 3rd-
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   party identification attestation (e.g., [drip-authentication]).^
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
==

Cheers,
Med

De : Tm-rid <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]> De la part de Robert Moskowitz
Envoyé : lundi 4 avril 2022 17:03
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]>
Cc : [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Objet : Re: [Drip] Revised Abstract -- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

And on BMI3 on:

   HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy
   that provides Registrar discovery for 3rd-party identifier
   attestation.

that should not be Registrar, rather registry.

   HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy
   that enables registry (e.g. DNS) discovery for 3rd-party identifier
   attestation.




On 4/4/22 10:26, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Removing citations and not exploding the following text are at odds, as I was instructed that the abstract needs to say it is updating prior rfcs.  I would have to dig to find out where this was added, but lets look at this:

   This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags
   (HHITs), updating both [RFC7401] and [RFC7343], as self-asserting
   IPv6 addresses and thereby a trustable identifier for use as the
   Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification and tracking (UAS
   RID).

updating both HIPv2 and ORCHIDv2  ???

What are those, do I expand them to Host Identity Protocol version 2 and Overlay Routable Cryptographic Hash Identifiers Version 2  ???

or

updating existing standards defining the Host Identity Tag (HIT) and its hash(ed) construction  ???

The Introduction explains what and why Hierarchical Host Identity Tags and thus needing to update 7401 and 7343.  How these rfcs are updated is covered in later sections.

This is probably the hardest comment to resolved based on prior comments...

thanks


On 4/1/22 09:07, [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> wrote:
Rob,

Please find below my comments to -18:


  1.  pdf: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18-rev%20Med.pdf
  2.  doc: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18-rev%20Med.doc

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med

De : Tm-rid <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]> De la part de [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Envoyé : vendredi 1 avril 2022 09:41
À : Robert Moskowitz <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Objet : Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

Hi Bob, all,

Thank you for implementing the list of agreed changes (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tm-rid/K1tOOlHcdsz1RdMZXsahP2qrBvA/).

I invite everyone to carefully look into this version and share any remaining concern by ** April, 07 **.

Absent any follow-up, we will request publication for this document next Friday 08/04.

If we hear back from IANA before then, Rob will take care of the comments. If not, IANA-related comments will be addressed in due time (IETF LC).

As I already reviewed the document several times, I may have only nits/minor fixes that I will directly share with Rob.

Cheers,
Med

De : Tm-rid <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> De la part de Robert Moskowitz
Envoyé : jeudi 31 mars 2022 17:50
À : [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Objet : Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

Fixed outstanding items of supporting 8-bit HHIT Suite ID.  Please check out that I now have this all done.  Particularly sections 4.2 and 5.

Moved HID registration to drip-registries (and changed reference to ietf-drip-registries!).  That is no longer asking ICAO, here, to manage RAA space.

Some other cleanup, please look at diff.

Still to do:  waiting for IANA review.  So I anticipate a -19
On 3/31/22 11:45, [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> wrote:



A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of the Drone Remote ID Protocol WG of the IETF.



        Title           : DRIP Entity Tag (DET) for Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification (UAS RID)

        Authors         : Robert Moskowitz

                          Stuart W. Card

                          Adam Wiethuechter

                          Andrei Gurtov

 Filename        : draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.txt

 Pages           : 33

 Date            : 2022-03-31



Abstract:

   This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags

   (HHITs), updating both [RFC7401] and [RFC7343], as self-asserting

   IPv6 addresses and thereby a trustable identifier for use as the

   Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification and tracking (UAS

   RID).  Within the context of RID, HHITs will be called DRIP Entity

   Tags (DET).  HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy

   that provides Registrar discovery for 3rd-party identifier

   attestation.





The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-rid/



There is also an HTML version available at:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-rid-18.html



A diff from the previous version is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-drip-rid-18





Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts





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