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Bob, whom cam you recruit from IOTOPS and/or elsewhere to assist you with t=
his draft, and whom beyond those few to review it?

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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 10:21:03 AM
To: Stu Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>; tm-rid@ietf.org <tm-rid@ietf.org>=
; draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org <draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: draft-ietf-drip-dki


Hi Stu,

(as Chair this time)



The WG can always reconsider that decision, but I=92m afraid that we will n=
eed to show there is enough energy to work on this.



IOTOPS may have more eyes to look into this.



Cheers,

Med



De : Stu Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>
Envoy=E9 : jeudi 6 f=E9vrier 2025 15:59
=C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; tm-rid@ie=
tf.org; draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org
Objet : Re: draft-ietf-drip-dki



To facilitate adoption of DRIP by the aviation, law enforcement, physical s=
ecurity and public safety communities, who are largely ignorant of the orga=
nizational structure (indeed, largely of the existence) of IETF, our WG may=
 want to reconsider DKI publication as part of a coherent set of DRIP RFCs.



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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> <mo=
hamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:52:28 AM
To: tm-rid@ietf.org<mailto:tm-rid@ietf.org> <tm-rid@ietf.org<mailto:tm-rid@=
ietf.org>>; draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.or=
g> <draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org>>
Subject: draft-ietf-drip-dki



Hi Bob, all,



We adopted draft-ietf-drip-dki in the past to meet the following milestone:



=93Adopt a support document for operationalizing DRIP (Informational; not n=
ecessarily for publication as RFC)=94



The draft was tagged with =93Adopted for WG Info Only=94 [1]



The authors may want to socialize the draft in iotops or even target contin=
uing developing it there. FWIW, IOTOPS charter has the following in the cha=
rter:



=93The IETF works on a number of technologies related to IoT. This includes=
, but is not limited to work done in ACE, ANIMA, CBOR, CORE, DRIP, LAKE, LP=
WAN, LWIG, ROLL, SUIT, TEEP, 6LO, 6TISCH, and other working groups. IOTOPS =
is intended to be a discussion venue where people can discuss how various I=
oT-related technologies fit together.=94



Cheers,

Med

(as a contributor)



[1] see more about this state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/help/stat=
e/draft-stream-ietf/





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<div dir=3D"auto">Bob, whom cam you recruit from IOTOPS and/or elsewhere to=
 assist you with this draft, and whom beyond those few to review it?</div>
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nge.com &lt;mohamed.boucadair@orange.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 6, 2025 10:21:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stu Card &lt;stu.card@axenterprize.com&gt;; tm-rid@ietf.org &lt;=
tm-rid@ietf.org&gt;; draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org &lt;draft-ietf-drip-dki@i=
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: draft-ietf-drip-dki</font>
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">Hi Stu,</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">(as Chair this time)</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">The WG can always reconsider that decision, but I=92m afra=
id that we will need to show there is enough energy to work on this.
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">IOTOPS may have more eyes to look into this.</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Med</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><b>De&nbsp;:</b> Stu Card &lt;stu.card@axenterpriz=
e.com&gt; <br>
<b>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</b> jeudi 6 f=E9vrier 2025 15:59<br>
<b>=C0&nbsp;:</b> BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET &lt;mohamed.boucadair@orange.=
com&gt;; tm-rid@ietf.org; draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org<br>
<b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: draft-ietf-drip-dki</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To facilitate adoption of DRI=
P by the aviation, law enforcement, physical security and public safety com=
munities, who are largely ignorant of the organizational structure (indeed,=
 largely of the existence) of IETF,
 our WG may want to reconsider DKI publication as part of a coherent set of=
 DRIP RFCs.</span></p>
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<a href=3D"mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com">mohamed.boucadair@orange.co=
m</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com">mohamed.boucadair=
@orange.com</a>&gt;<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Sent:</s=
pan></strong> Thursday, February 6, 2025 9:52:28 AM<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">To:</spa=
n></strong> <a href=3D"mailto:tm-rid@ietf.org">
tm-rid@ietf.org</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tm-rid@ietf.org">tm-rid@ietf.org<=
/a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org">
draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-drip-dki@=
ietf.org">draft-ietf-drip-dki@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Subject:=
</span></strong> draft-ietf-drip-dki</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">We adopted draft-ietf-drip-dki in the past to meet the fol=
lowing milestone:</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">=93Adopt a support document for operationalizing DRIP (Inf=
ormational; not necessarily for publication as RFC)=94
</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">The draft was tagged with =93Adopted for WG Info Only=94 [=
1]</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">The authors may want to socialize the draft in iotops or e=
ven target continuing developing it there. FWIW, IOTOPS charter has the fol=
lowing in the charter:</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">=93The IETF works on a number of technologies related to I=
oT. This includes, but is not limited to work done in ACE, ANIMA, CBOR, COR=
E, DRIP, LAKE, LPWAN, LWIG, ROLL, SUIT, TEEP, 6LO,
 6TISCH, and other working groups. IOTOPS is intended to be a discussion ve=
nue where people can discuss how various IoT-related technologies fit toget=
her.=94</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Med</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;=
">(as a contributor)</span></p>
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">&nbsp;</span></p>
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urier New&quot;">[1] see more about this state at
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/help/state/draft-stream-ietf/">=
<span style=3D"color:#0563C1">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/help/state/d=
raft-stream-ietf/</span></a>
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urier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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