Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-11.txt

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Thu, 21 October 2021 12:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-11.txt
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On 10/21/21 2:40 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Thank you for addressing the comment from the cfrg, particularly this one: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/tAJJq60W6TlUv7_pde5cw5TDTCU/
> BTW, please check the 2nd line of the third paragraph of the new text about pre-image attack as I'm not sure to parse it.

Is the following an improvement?

Now it should be noted that the 2^64 attempts is for stealing a
     *specific* HHIT.  Consider a scenario of a street photography
     company with 1,024 UAs (each with its own HHIT); you'd
     be happy stealing any one of them.  Then rather than needing to 
satisfy a
     64-bit condition on the cSHAKE128 output, you need only satisfy
     what is equivalent to a 54-bit condition (since you have 2^10 more
     opportunities for success).



>
> Also, it could be great if you can motivate the change in the normative language in Section 4.2. Thank you.
>
> All: please review and share your comments. This is highly appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Robert Moskowitz
>> Envoyé : mercredi 20 octobre 2021 22:19
>> À : tm-rid@ietf.org
>> Objet : Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-11.txt
>>
>> Changes in sec 4.2 and 11.  Please review.
>>
>> Adam and I are discussing sec 5, as he actually has done some
>> implementation demos and I may make adjusts along what he has done.
>>
>> Also Adam and I need to work out App B and drip-auth.
>>
>> So there may be yet an update before the cutoff.  Of course comments are
>> welcome and I will make adjusts as needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/21 4:13 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the Drone Remote ID Protocol WG of the
>> IETF.
>>>           Title           : DRIP Entity Tag (DET) for Unmanned Aircraft
>> System Remote Identification (UAS RID)
>>>           Authors         : Robert Moskowitz
>>>                             Stuart W. Card
>>>                             Adam Wiethuechter
>>>                             Andrei Gurtov
>>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-drip-rid-11.txt
>>> 	Pages           : 29
>>> 	Date            : 2021-10-20
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>      This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags
>>>      (HHITs) as self-asserting IPv6 addresses and thereby a trustable
>>>      identifier for use as the Unmanned Aircraft System Remote
>>>      Identification and tracking (UAS RID).  Within the context of RID,
>>>      HHITs will be called DRIP Entity Tags (DET).  HHITs self-attest to
>>>      the included explicit hierarchy that provides Registrar discovery
>> for
>>>      3rd-party identifier attestation.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-rid/
>>>
>>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-rid-11.html
>>>
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-drip-rid-11
>>>
>>>
>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>>
>>>
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