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CC: Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>, "draft-ietf-drip-auth@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-drip-auth@ietf.org>, "tm-rid@ietf.org" <tm-rid@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-auth-05.txt
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Re-,

Thanks, Stu.

We have 5mn that we secured in the agenda in case there are last minute issue with -arch or rid. If there are no issues, the slot will be yours to briefly update the WG on F3411.

Cheers,
Med

De : Card, Stu <stu.card@axenterprize.com>
Envoyé : mercredi 9 mars 2022 14:43
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Cc : Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>om>; draft-ietf-drip-auth@ietf.org; tm-rid@ietf.org
Objet : Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-auth-05.txt

ASTM F3411-22 ballot submission window closes soon, I think MAR 15. If there are no negative ballots, this should be very soon thereafter, as ASTM approached ICAO with this many months ago and there is already agreement in principle. The F3411-22 draft has an appendix, written primarily by Bob, based on how IETF and IANA coordinate, specifying the procedure for ASTM and ICAO to do likewise. :-) May I have 5 minutes at our IETF 113 DRIP session to update everyone on F3411?

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, 02:37 <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>> wrote:
Hi Adam, Stu,

Thanks you for clarifying.

Stu, do you have an idea by when that process will be set and put into effect?

Cheers,
Med

De : Card, Stu <stu.card@axenterprize.com<mailto:stu.card@axenterprize.com>>
Envoyé : mercredi 9 mars 2022 00:19
À : Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com<mailto:adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>>
Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>>; draft-ietf-drip-auth@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-drip-auth@ietf.org>; tm-rid@ietf.org<mailto:tm-rid@ietf.org>
Objet : Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-auth-05.txt

"We" in this case being first ASTM to set up the process (after F3411-22 passes ballot), then IETF to register codes via that process.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 13:08 Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com<mailto:adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>> wrote:
Hi Med,

This is an error. We have not contacted ICAO about this and AFAIK they have yet to stand up the registration process. I will fix the sentence accordingly to match Section 8.

--------
73,
Adam T. Wiethuechter
Software Engineer; AX Enterprize, LLC
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Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-auth-05.txt

Hi Adam, all,

FYI, I requested a security review for this version to make sure that potential security issues are tagged early in the process. I indicated March 22 as a tentative date, but this will depend on the reviewers availability.

One quick question about ICAO-related matters:

The draft says:
==
   The SAM Type field is maintained by the International Civil Aviation
   Organization (ICAO) and for DRIP four are allocated:
==

but also:

==
8.  ICAO Considerations

   DRIP requests the following SAM Type's to be allocated:
==

Which seems to be conflicting.

Can you please report about the currents status of these assignments? If the assignments are already made, then removing Section 8 would make sense.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : I-D-Announce <i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org>> De la part de
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> Envoyé : lundi 7 mars 2022 20:27
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> Objet : I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-auth-05.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> This draft is a work item of the Drone Remote ID Protocol WG of the
> IETF.
>
>         Title           : DRIP Authentication Formats & Protocols for
> Broadcast Remote ID
>         Authors         : Adam Wiethuechter
>                           Stuart Card
>                           Robert Moskowitz
>        Filename        : draft-ietf-drip-auth-05.txt
>        Pages           : 48
>        Date            : 2022-03-07
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes how to include trust into the ASTM Remote ID
>    specification defined in ASTM F3411 under Broadcast Remote ID (RID).
>    It defines a few message schemes (sent within the Authentication
>    Message) that can be used to authenticate past messages sent by a
>    unmanned aircraft (UA) and provide proof of UA trustworthiness even
>    in the absence of Internet connectivity at the receiving node.
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