Re: [Drip] WGLC for draft-ietf-drip-arch(Internet mail)

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Hi Shuai,

Please see inline. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tm-rid [mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
> shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)
> Envoyé : lundi 8 mars 2021 05:47
> À : tm-rid@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Drip] WGLC for draft-ietf-drip-arch(Internet mail)
> 
> Hi Stephane, Thanks for reviewing the draft. Please see reply inline.
> 
> Best,
> Shuai
> 
> On 2/27/21, 2:48 AM, "Tm-rid on behalf of Stephane Bortzmeyer" <tm-
> rid-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
> 
>     On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 09:57:22AM -0500,
>      Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com> wrote
>      a message of 54 lines which said:
> 
>     > This email starts a WGLC for  draft-ietf-drip-arch available
> here:
>     >  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-drip-arch-10
>     >
>     > Please review the document and provide your feed back /
> comments by March
>     > 9.
> 
>     I've read -11. Drones are clearly not my area of expertise. The
> draft
>     is hard to follow, with a number of acronyms I'm not familiar
>     with. Some are in section "3.2.  Abbreviations", some are defined
> at
>     first use. There is certainly a reason for this difference but it
> does
>     not help the reader.
> 
> Shuai/ There were prior comments about two little definitions and too
> many TLAs. And WG has decided the architecture draft should be an
> independent draft without referring to the reqs- .

[Med] I may miss your point but the requirements I-D is our reference for these matters. Section 2.2 of draft-ietf-drip-reqs says the following:   

   This section defines a set of terms expected to be used in DRIP
   documents.  This list is meant to be the DRIP terminology reference.

This is ACKed in the arch I-D: 

==
This document uses terms defined in [I-D.ietf-drip-reqs]
==

To address Stéphane's comment, I suggest to remove Section 3.2 from the document + check that all these entries are present in I-D.ietf-drip-reqs.  

 Those are the
> reasons we explicitly give full names for acronyms. And I agree there
> are lots of them. Do you have specific TLAs you felt confused about?
> We can make it clear in the next revision.

[Med] I interpret Stéphane's comment as that the document need to be consistent. I think this can be addressed by my proposal above and expand on first use for all of them. Thanks.  

 

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