Re: [Tm-rid] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-drip-00-01: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Fri, 21 February 2020 21:48 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-drip-00-01: (with COMMENT)
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Any taker to answer Alissa's second point ? about what is the subject (see below) ?

I would have loved to finalize the charter this week and this is the only open point left before approval

-éric

On 20/02/2020, 10:28, "Tm-rid on behalf of Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of evyncke@cisco.com> wrote:

    Alissa and Ben,
    
    Thank you for your comments and let's work to fix all ambiguities... 
    
    TM-RID list members can you please comment on Alissa & Ben's reviews ?
    - Alissa: we need to expand UAS as "Unmanned Aircraft System" at first use even if only to avoid being ambiguous
    - Alissa: what is the subject of the "need to": is it "these requirements" or "those associated to the UAS identifier" or "UAS identifier", let's be clear on this
    - Ben: indeed milestone are quite optimistic... adoption should be target and request for publication 6 month later ?
    - Ben: should RID be trustworthy (my guess is yes of course as this is the main purpose of this group)
    
    The DRIP charter will be reviewed today at 15H00 UTC, so, a prompt reply from the proponents of the list will be appreciated
    
    -éric
    
    On 20/02/2020, 06:10, "Tm-rid on behalf of Alissa Cooper via Datatracker" <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
    
        Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
        charter-ietf-drip-00-01: No Objection
        
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        COMMENT:
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        Two questions about this:
        
        "* Requirements: the WG is expected to provide an informational document that
        lists the technical requirements for applying IETF protocols to the UAS Remote
        Identification (UAS RID) - that is the system for identifying UA during flight
        by other parties. These requirements will also include those associated to the
        UAS Identifier that need to both meet some constraints as well as some specific
        properties."
        
        Is UA distinct from UAS?
        
        The last sentence doesn't parse properly for me. What is the subject of "need
        to"? Is this saying "requirements ... need to ... meet some constraints ...
        [and meet] some specific properties"? What does that mean?
        
        
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