Re: [Tm-rid] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-drip-00-01: (with COMMENT)

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "Wiethuechter, Adam" <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-drip-00-01: (with COMMENT)
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Adam

Would you mind proposing a sentence to replace the existing one ?

From: "Wiethuechter, Adam" <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>
Date: Friday, 21 February 2020 at 23:10
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-drip-00-01: (with COMMENT)

This (the second point) is mentioning that the UAS Identifier has its own set of constraints and properties that it must hold - defined and regulated by parties outside the IETF. For example UAS IDs are constrained to 20 bytes.

So the requirements documents produced by the WG will also specify other identifiers, created new or adapted from an existing protocol (this is exactly with the HHITs are from HIP), that conform and meet the specifications to be certified as a UAS ID.

Probably not the exact words to use, but I think it clears up the confusion?

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com<mailto:evyncke@cisco.com>> wrote:
Any taker to answer Alissa's second point ? about what is the subject (see below) ?

I would have loved to finalize the charter this week and this is the only open point left before approval

-éric

On 20/02/2020, 10:28, "Tm-rid on behalf of Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of evyncke@cisco.com<mailto:evyncke@cisco.com>> wrote:

    Alissa and Ben,

    Thank you for your comments and let's work to fix all ambiguities...

    TM-RID list members can you please comment on Alissa & Ben's reviews ?
    - Alissa: we need to expand UAS as "Unmanned Aircraft System" at first use even if only to avoid being ambiguous
    - Alissa: what is the subject of the "need to": is it "these requirements" or "those associated to the UAS identifier" or "UAS identifier", let's be clear on this
    - Ben: indeed milestone are quite optimistic... adoption should be target and request for publication 6 month later ?
    - Ben: should RID be trustworthy (my guess is yes of course as this is the main purpose of this group)

    The DRIP charter will be reviewed today at 15H00 UTC, so, a prompt reply from the proponents of the list will be appreciated

    -éric

    On 20/02/2020, 06:10, "Tm-rid on behalf of Alissa Cooper via Datatracker" <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of noreply@ietf.org<mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:

        Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
        charter-ietf-drip-00-01: No Objection

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        The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-drip/



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        COMMENT:
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        Two questions about this:

        "* Requirements: the WG is expected to provide an informational document that
        lists the technical requirements for applying IETF protocols to the UAS Remote
        Identification (UAS RID) - that is the system for identifying UA during flight
        by other parties. These requirements will also include those associated to the
        UAS Identifier that need to both meet some constraints as well as some specific
        properties."

        Is UA distinct from UAS?

        The last sentence doesn't parse properly for me. What is the subject of "need
        to"? Is this saying "requirements ... need to ... meet some constraints ...
        [and meet] some specific properties"? What does that mean?


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