Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt
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Bob, ICAO is already cited as an example for the DNS part, even if we shouldn’t as per existing guidelines. I don’t think there is a value in citing again ICAO in the section under discussion nor having the mention about “with knowledge of aviation”. Please remember that the conclusion of one full month to discuss this particular point was to remove the mention of ICAO there. I prefer we go for a neutral wording. The registry draft is where to have this discussion. That draft may consider/decide leaving some control of the RAA range to the IETF/IANA. Let’s do things in the right order. Thank you. Cheers, Med De : Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Envoyé : lundi 21 mars 2022 10:52 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc : tm-rid@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt "some organization with knowledge of aviation, e.g. ICAO, will take on managing the RAA number assignment". So not restarting wglc, I an good with that, and what I will say. I can go through these slides in 5 min. But if everyone here reads them, then I can just say: "see my slides, they are self-explanatory." Does this cover things? I am heading out and will be back a bit before 8ET. On 3/21/22 02:36, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote: Hi Bob, The 5mn slot in the agenda is a provision to discuss any last minute issues with arch and rid. I'm not sure we have such an issue for rid. Do we? If what you have in mind is a status update, I suggest you send a message to the list with the points you wanted to report. Thanks. We only have one hour and we would like that Andrei and Adam have their full time budget. Thank you. Cheers, Daniel & Med -----Message d'origine----- De : Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org><mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Robert Moskowitz Envoyé : dimanche 20 mars 2022 03:16 À : tm-rid@ietf.org<mailto:tm-rid@ietf.org> Objet : Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt This matchs the txt on my server. It will be the basis for my update comments during our session on Wed. On 3/19/22 22:13, internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Drone Remote ID Protocol WG of the IETF. Title : DRIP Entity Tag (DET) for Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification (UAS RID) Authors : Robert Moskowitz Stuart W. Card Adam Wiethuechter Andrei Gurtov Filename : draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2022-03-19 Abstract: This document describes the use of Hierarchical Host Identity Tags (HHITs), updating both [RFC7401] and [RFC7343], as self-asserting IPv6 addresses and thereby a trustable identifier for use as the Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification and tracking (UAS RID). Within the context of RID, HHITs will be called DRIP Entity Tags (DET). HHITs self-attest to the included explicit hierarchy that provides Registrar discovery for 3rd-party identifier attestation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-rid/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-drip-rid-17 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts -- Tm-rid mailing list Tm-rid@ietf.org<mailto:Tm-rid@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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- [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-drip-rid-17.txt Robert Moskowitz