Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notes for 12Feb tools call
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Fri, 08 February 2019 17:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notes for 12Feb tools call
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On 2/8/19 11:40 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 9:29 AM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com > <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>> wrote: > > > On 2/8/19 11:20 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 8:51 AM Robert Sparks >> <rjsparks@nostrum.com <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>> wrote: >> >> # IETF Website # >> >> Torchbox has completed their last major deliverable >> (upgrading the >> website to a more modern version of wagtail). There are a >> small number >> of tickets related to documentation and requests for >> information we >> should have before shifting the code into our own public code >> repository. Note that the wagtail project continues to issue new >> releases. The project with torchbox brought us to wagtail >> 2.2.2. The >> current release now is 2.4. >> >> However, we are blocked on deploying this latest deliverable. >> The way we >> are serving python applications via Apache right now >> (mod_wsgi) only >> allows the use of one version of python. Many of our >> applications are on >> Python 2.7 right now. This includes the datatracker and the >> mailarchive. >> Wagtail, on the other hand, dropped support for python 2.7 at >> Wagtail >> 2.0. Waiting until we have all exisiting deployed >> applications ported to >> python 3 to deploy the deliverable from Torchbox is exceedingly >> suboptimal. It will delay the current plan for the tools-team >> to take >> over maintenance of the website code and start adding >> features the >> secretariat has asked for. We've started conversations about >> what other >> options we have besides waiting for everything to be ported >> to python 3. >> >> >> Why does the version of datatracker impact the version of Wagtail >> we run? They seem to be on different hosts, so can't they run >> different versions of Python? > They are currently served from the same machine, even if they have > different hostnames. > > > This seems like a good opportunity to move one to a different machine, > or better yet, to some system (containers?) where hardware assignment > doesn't matter. Agreed - that one of the options we're talking about. > >> # Yangcatalog # >> >> We've shifted the plan for short-term deployment and >> development to >> occur using the existing externally hosted server. >> >> >> Can you provide some more background for this? Why can't this be >> moved to an IETF server (or IETF-managed cloud) > There were some difficulties trying to move this to an IETF server > given the current level of access to internals (shell access to > the machine) required by the application. Eric and the developers > were experiencing connectivity problems that couldn't be > reproduced from other locations, and it appears some trouble with > outbound connections that Glen's team couldn't isolate. The goal > is _definitely_ to be where we could deploy anywhere. The first > task in the outstanding SoW includes the work needed to get the > project to the point that shell access isn't required by the > developers or application expert. It will also improve release > packaging to make deploying wherever more feasible.'' > > > Hmm.... So my instinct here would be to hold off on doing anything > else until that's happened. Alissa, WDYT? > > -Ekr > >> >> -Ekr >> >> The meeting application improvement SoW is essentially ready >> to issue. >> >> I have text from Ekr to work into the RPC security code >> review SoW. The >> RPC has asked that we hold off issuing that RFP until some >> changes >> related to the new format are better integrated into their >> repository so >> that the review focuses more on the code that will actually >> be used. >> >> The Inline-Errata SoW is still under review and has several >> unresolved >> comments. The lastest version is at >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T-6eBrNPC7aIxOTChdIZE7fecbxUJ7kq-F6RhyCNUGI/edit>. >> >> One of the major observations in the comments is that this >> project is >> focusing on the existing (old-format) publication format, and >> is not >> targetting or taking advantage of the new format in any way. >> That's >> intentional. We need to have some run-time experience with >> the new >> format before we can sensibly ask a contractor to work on >> inlining >> errata into it. We plan to learn from this project, and apply >> what we >> learn into the new format with a future project. >> >> The next SoW to be developed is for IANA expert review tracking. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org <mailto:TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>
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