Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Transition of sustainietf.org to IETF control

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Thu, 06 June 2019 06:49 UTC

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From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Transition of sustainietf.org to IETF control
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There is discussion in the LLC Board about taking the site down altogether, so I would suggest that folks hold off on making plans for it for a bit.

Alissa

> On Jun 5, 2019, at 10:40 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
> 
> Greg Wood suggested that the site could be could be restructured to remove the email address altogether.  However, we need to have SustainIETF@isoc.org forwarded to some IETF email address, and of course, someone needs to be responsible or reading the traffic that comes there.
> 
> Russ
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, if we take this, I strongly suggest putting it in a container, with its database also containerized. If it is just wordpress (that is, nobody's done anything special), all we'd really need is a copy of the database (IIRC, wordpress keeps its static content (like photos) in that database).
>> 
>> I think whoever is supposed to manage the content (see e.g. the "Donor Wall" at the bottom of the page) should get some training from whoever's been doing that at ISOC so far.
>> 
>> You're thinking ISOC would forward sustainietf@isoc.org to whatever @ietf.org address we created? It seems to me that this will have to land on a person who can manage taking a donation. Until the LLC appoints someone else, I think that has to be the executive director, no?
>> 
>> RjS
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/5/19 2:57 PM, Russ Housley wrote:
>>> Dear Tools Team:
>>> 
>>> The IETF LLC is working on transferring control of the IETF Endowment bank accounts from ISOC to the IETF, a process which should be completed on June 28. As a result, the related website and domain (sustainietf.org) need to be transferred to IETF.
>>> 
>>> I have asked Glen to work with ISOC to get the domain name transferred to the IETF Trust.
>>> 
>>> The web site is a WordPress-driven site. I am unaware of any any associated source control.
>>> 
>>> In addition, the site points people to SustainIETF@isoc.org, so we will need to create a new mailbox for that.  I do not yet understand who will read the mail sent there, so I do not have a suggest way forward yet.
>>> 
>>> Is this a candidate for a new container?
>>> 
>>> Russ
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