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Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Tools-discuss] Server Transition Briefing

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Wed, 08 April 2020 00:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Tools-discuss] Server Transition Briefing
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> It was more about how monolithic our datatracker is, and why we aren't
> leveraging a more distributed architecture that incorporates other systems.
> Why we aren't container and kubernetes and cloud-bursting...

Right.  Some of those are rather trendy, but it's impressive how quickly 
one can spin up docker containers and replicate them to get more 
performance and move them from one place to another and (sometimes) swap 
in new versions of stuff.

>    > When we depend on software where the number of people who know it well
>    > enough to maintain it can be counted on one's thumbs, that's a risk,
>    > and one that I think we need to balance against the risk of using
>    > someone else's less dogfoody commercial package.
>
> I don't know if we have the financial leverage to actually get much.
> **We can't even get Webex to dogfood IPv6** but I think that we should
> explore what we can get.

Much though I love the IETF, we are not a big enough customer to make 
vendors do something different.  We might have some effect via moral 
persuasion ("standards!  auditability! open source!") but that's 
different.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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