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Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Report -- 29 April 2019

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 29 April 2019 19:30 UTC

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To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Report -- 29 April 2019
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On 29.04.2019 20:27, Russ Housley wrote:
> ...
> Julian:
>
> Authors can currently use the implementation of xml2rfc to submit an I-D.  The question is at what point will the IESG be comfortable with that format for an approved I-D.  I assume that significant discussion between the RFC Editor and the IESG will be needed to answer that question.  And, if there are actions that need to be taken before that point, tehy need to be identified so we can find the resources to make them happen.
> ...

At some point, we need updated versions of RFC 7991 (and related docs)
that actually describe precisely what the RFC format *is*. To get there,
we should review what's different right now, discuss that, and decide
how to resolve the differences. In some cases, it will likely mean to
agree on the proposed change implemented in xml2rfc (and properly
document it); but in some other cases I'd expect more discussion.

Best regards, Julian

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