[TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Problem with exploder for icnrg-chairs@ietf.org

"David R. Oran" <daveoran@orandom.net> Fri, 01 July 2022 20:09 UTC

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Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Problem with exploder for icnrg-chairs@ietf.org
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Forwarding as suggested by Glen.

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> From: Glen <glen@amsl.com>
> Date: July 1, 2022 at 3:56:31 PM EDT
> To: "David R. Oran" <daveoran@orandom.net>
> Subject: Re: Problem with exploder for icnrg-chairs@ietf.org
> 
> Hi David -
> 
> Yes, this is an unfortunate side-effect of the IETF's legacy alias system 
> conflicting with most implementations of the IETF's DMARC and SPF standards.
> Alas, there is nothing I can do to fix this.
> 
> I would recommend engaging with the Tools Team to let them know that this
> is happening to you, that information will help them prioritize the development
> of a custom workaround solution to this problem.
> 
> I'm sorry I cannot do more to resolve this; alas, the SPF systems are behaving
> exactly as they should:  aliases just run afoul of SPF by the nature of the
> standard.
> 
> Please let me know if you need more information or background on this.
> 
> Glen
> --
> Glen Barney
> IT Director
> AMS (IETF Secretariat)
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 01, 2022 at 08:09:21AM -0400, David R. Oran wrote:
>> My mail server is complaining about the SPF record for Intel attached to the
>> exploded message to icnrg-chairs.
>> 
>> DaveO
>> 
>> Forwarded message:
>> 
>>    From: Schooler, Eve M <eve.m.schooler@intel.com>
>>    To: daveoran@orandom.net
>>    Subject: FW: IETF 114 Preliminary Agenda
>>    Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:47:57 +0000
>> 
>>    Strangeness again
>> 
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@ietfa.amsl.com>
>>    Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 12:47 AM
>>    To: Schooler, Eve M
>>    Subject: Undeliverable: IETF 114 Preliminary Agenda
>> 
>>    This is the mail system at host ietfa.amsl.com.
>> 
>>    I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to
>>    one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>> 
>>    For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>> 
>>    If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own
>>    text from the attached returned message.
>> 
>>    The mail system
>> 
>>    <daveoran@orandom.net> (expanded from
>>    <expand-icnrg-chairs@virtual.ietf.org>):
>>    host mail.crystalorb.net[45.79.114.168] said: 550 [SPF] 50.223.129.194 is
>> 
>>    not allowed to send mail from intel.com. (in reply to RCPT TO command)