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Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Open source tools and their problems

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Sat, 14 March 2020 13:54 UTC

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:51 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
> 
>> We do not allow people to register for IETF meetings with an EAI.  The reason is that the person will be added to the XXXall@ietf.org <mailto:XXXall@ietf.org> mail list, and that will cause Mailman to barf. The Mailman developers have publicly stated that EAI support is coming, but it was not part of the last release as expected.  Don Hollander at ICANN is also interested in solving this problem, and he has offered money in the past.  Maybe we can get the developers attention by both approaching them.
> 
> I'm probably the one to ask about EAI.
> 
> Realistically, it is vanishingly unlikely that there is anyone with an EAI address who would want to register or subscribe to an IETF thing who would not also have an ASCII address.  So long as our working language is English that is not likely to change.
> 
> There are communities of EAI-only users, but they exchange messages in the language of their address.

John:

We had someone try to do it a few meetings ago.  Fortunately they had another email address tey could use.

Russ

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