Re: [Tools-discuss] Google Scholar not indexing Internet-Drafts

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 16:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Google Scholar not indexing Internet-Drafts
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>> They're not even indexing RFCs, other than some old ones where it finds
>> copies that the ACM has.  Yow.
>
> Citation needed.

Try site:rfc-editor.org or site:tools.ietf.org and you get nothing,

> In an incognito window, the RFC Editor result was the first, second or
> third result for all of these...

There's two separate issues here.  While Google does index our web sites, 
the results are pretty random.  Once the tools server is retired, some 
sitemaps and meta tags would help.  The sitemap on datatracker.ietf.org 
only includes IPR disclosures and liason statements which seems 
suboptimal.  rfc-editor.org has no sitemap at all.

The other issue is that Google Scholar isn't finding any of the three 
copies of RFCs on our servers.  Our file formats leave something to be 
desired (there are industry standard HTML tags for bibliographic info 
which we don't use) but I don't think that's it, because it found a copy 
of a recent HTML RFC on Brian Carpenter's institution's site.

I think I will try some experiments with sitemaps, and maybe try adding 
the industry standard citation tags that Google says they prefer.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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