Re: [Tools-discuss] [Manycouches] Hums during virtual meetings

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 06 April 2020 22:18 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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As chair, you have to click on the |> thingy to activate the question.

As for my comments, the attached screen shot says it all. BTW it shows 11 people connected but 4 unique IP addresses. Hmm...

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 07-Apr-20 09:35, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> Good stuff! Though either it, or me, isn't quite right
> yet...
> 
> I created a meeting (called "blah") then a question but
> didn't figure out how to actually hum. Will try again
> tomorrow, when I'm sure others'll have figured it out for
> me:-)
> 
> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> 
> On 06/04/2020 22:27, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
>> When I realized that we cannot take hums at virtual meetings, I spent
>> some time thinking what it would take to simulate the hum
>> “experience” on a simple web application. There’s no chance we could
>> have real audio-based hums. There are applications that allow voting,
>> but a hum is most certainly not a vote! I came up with a set of
>> requirements [1].
>>
>>
>>
>> I was lucky enough to find two developers who iterated on an initial
>> solution, and now I believe it’s ready to present to this forum. The
>> application [2] can be used by anybody, with no need for
>> registration. If you care to read the source code, it is available at
>> [3].
>>
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate your feedback on a few questions:
>>
>>
>> Is there value in having hums in virtual meetings, given that it’s so
>> hard for a chair to “read” the audience? Do the requirements capture
>> something close enough to hums at face-to-face meetings? How
>> usable/accessible is the application to chairs and to WG meeting
>> participants?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Yaron
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: I know we shouldn’t be using the IETF logo, but it sure feels
>> much more realistic with it!
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sheffer-hum-app-req/
>>
>> [2] https://humming.us/
>>
>> [3] https://github.com/Jonyaa/HUM
>>
>>
>>
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