Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful
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The BIER meeting has been closed 15 minutes after the scheduled end 
time. You can clearly see that from the Jabber logs:

	https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/bier/2020-07-29.html

See my message at 12:55:45.

Alessandro

Il 29/07/20 17:18, Greg Mirsky ha scritto:
> Hi Jay,
> it could be. I was not taking notes at the moment.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg
> 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org 
> <mailto:jay@ietf.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>     On 30/07/2020, at 3:09 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On the first day of IETF-108 Meetcho closed the SPRING WG meeting
>>     on the clock. It was announced that five minutes grace period will
>>     be added. BIER meeting, to the best of my knowledge, was closed
>>     not at +5 but -5 minutes. Unannounced change of policy?
> 
>     Greg - are you sure it wasn’t five minutes before the top of the
>     hour, which is five minutes after the meeting is scheduled to finish?
> 
>     Jay
> 
> 
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Greg
>>
>>     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:03 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de
>>     <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>> wrote:
>>
>>         On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:56:02AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>         > On Jul 29, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de
>>         <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>> wrote:
>>         > > How is it possible that in a physcial meeting we are able
>>         to utilize all possible
>>         > > before andd after meeting times, and now going virtual
>>         where we should have
>>         > > FEWER time constraints, we enforce MORE ?
>>         >
>>         > Poor chair discipline does sometimes result in chairs trying
>>         to run their meetings into the break. This is a failure on the
>>         part of the chairs, not a feature.
>>
>>         Sure, but are we trying to virtualize our common experiences,
>>         requirements or
>>         trying to create a more strict regime ?
>>
>>         I see far fewer reasons for strict meetecho session limits
>>         than there are fo physical rooms.
>>
>>         Sorry, but this makes totally no sense to me.
>>
>>         Cheers
>>             toerless
>>
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